Issue 98011 | Editor: Erik Sandewall | [postscript] | ||
28.1.1998 |
|
|||
Today | ||||||||||||||
Today, Michael Thielscher fills in additional details about what cases are correctly handled in his approach. The discussion between Wolfgang Bibel and Erik Sandewall proceeds on the topic of citation principles. Although this is a meta-issue which is important within all research areas, it has a particular relevance for the present Newsletter because our on-line discussions offer novel ways of dealing with citation updates. See the discussion contribution below.
| ||||||||||||||
Debates | ||||||||||||||
Ontologies for actions and changeMichael Thielscher:Dear Erik, On 26.1., you wrote:
The approach is not restricted to projection, so observations may very well give cause to revising one's belief about the qualifications of an action in the past. As for the stolen car scenario: The only abnormality I consider in the paper is that of being unable to perform an action, in which case none of its effects materializes. Your Stolen Car scenario requires to consider abnormalities as to the surprising production of a single effect (or the failure of producing an expected effect). However, I can give you a straightforward formalization of your example in the Fluent Calculus, including default rules, along the lines of my KR-paper. The resulting axiomatization supports precisely the intended conclusions which you mentioned. My approach also works with non-deterministic action, so if an action has the (nondeterministic) effect that the tail pipe of either of two cars A and B gets clogged, then two preferred models result, one of which denies that we can start car B--as intended. Michael
Discussion with Wolfgang Bibel about his IJCAI lectureErik Sandewall:Dear Wolfgang, A question can serve as a means of obtaining information, but it can also be the syntactic form that's used for questioning a proposition. For those of my questions that were of the former kind, you have provided valuable answers - thank you. However, for those that are of the latter kind, I want to pursue our discussion a bit further on two specific issues: methodology of research in our area, and citation principles. Both of them have a general interest, I believe, and for simplicity let's address them one at a time. I'll start with the citation principles. The following are two cases containing a quotation from your article, my question or comment, and your answer: 1. Concerning the answer literals or state predicate:
2. Concerning the combination of differential equations and logic:
I must say that I find your reactions exceptional. It is true that it's always difficult to produce correct and complete references to earlier work; it is difficult for example to give adequate coverage of, and comparisons with approaches different from one's own. In the beginning of your answer, you gave an eloquent description of the problem that we all encounter: you are frustrated by a lack of reference to your own work (even in a case where it was not relevant, actually), and you don't have the space to give an adequate presentation of the work of others. There is no easy solution to this problem, but would it be possible to agree on a few elementary principles, such as:
These points are fairly obvious, I would think, although I'm afraid they're not always practiced. There may be a number of other principles that ought to be added as well; the present ones resulted from reflecting on the two concrete cases that I quoted above. Besides a clarification of policy, I think we need additional mechanisms for feedback and correction of citations. The traditional mechanism, namely, the confidential peer reviews, is clearly not sufficient. One obvious way of proceeding is to use ETAI's review mechanism using public discussion, which allows anyone to contribute questions or suggestions to the author in a transparent but undramatical way. This may be used for pointing out additional references that are relevant for the article. Using a public forum for this feedback to the author has the additional advantage that it can help to resolve disagreements. If an author is unwilling to accept a suggestion for additional citations, it becomes possible for others to listen to the arguments and to form their own opinion. Then at least, if there is a citation fault it's less likely to propagate to later articles written by others. I am sure that you have also thought about these issues, in particular as the Research Notes Editor of the Artificial Intelligence Journal, and I look forward to your comments on this important topic. - Erik
|